they are over 4inch thick im a size 9 and their longer then my foot and the smell omg they stink so bad lol i give them lotus bloom and lotus flower as well. i give them 2 gallons of water in the begining of the week and 2 more gallons of water at the end of the week with lotus nutrients at the end of the week their drinking alot of water at this point the buds are turning out very thick and long as well i got about two may be three weeks left then i would say their ready i got 2 that are growing a little slow but other then that they are coming along great