Im totally a believer in Octopot!!! This is the begining of week 5 and they are loving life. The trunk is explanding daily. Almost the same size as the grow i just finished already!! I got roots spitting out the bottom of the pots evertywhere! I cant lie, I was skeptical of using Octopots (to the point i planted backup seeds). Still not getting stable ph from the Gold Leaf but Im good with it adjusting as long as the plants stay beautiful. I got huge hands, look at that leaf!!!